Then she goes back in time and now the past where she killed herself no longer exists, she dies of sickness in her old age. The main word being “CAN”, not with absolute certainty. This makes sense, or at least it allows the anime to make sense. Since Okabe notices the change after sending the d-mail, the divergence no. You may remember me from such Let's Watches as "Let's Watch FMA:Brotherhood". Steins Gate Visual Novel Tv Tropes. I couldn't quite wrap my head around less obvious mechanics of the world line shifts in 0. It is set in 2010 in Akihabara, Tokyo, and follows Rintaro Okabe, a self-proclaimed "mad scientist", who runs the "Future Gadget Laboratory" in an apartment together with his friends Mayuri Shiina and Itaru "Daru" Hashida. We rewrite the whole timeline, and Suzuha as well as time-travelling Okabe cannot exist, so they should get deleted (also, time travelling Okabes blood by extension). This new Science Adventure Project will be titled Steins; something, the full title will be revealed at a later date. Steins;Gate takes a “tree-branch” approach to the parallel worlds hypothesis, so each timeline will continue on its own while Okabe is the only one being cognizant of the events in those timeline. Let's Watch Steins;Gate Hi, I'm Randomguy. After that date, they start experiencing different things. I take it those discussions took place in the discord server? It is about time travel, tinkering with science, and the desire to protect loved ones. He goes back to the future, and devastated, doesn't try to save her again. In the VN, Kurisu mentions that although there are many theories, 11 of them are widely accepted in the scientific … in Japan for the PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4 and PlayStation Vita in 2015, Microsoft Windows in 2016, Xbox One in 2017, and Nintendo Switch in 2019. And the ND itself doesn't do anything. Steins;Gate uses the black hole theory mostly, by compressing the data of the brain (2.5 petabytes ), to a size sendable by the PhoneWave (name subject to change). [Edit: resolved. At least, I assume. That's exactly how I view it, except I think you also need to consider "narrative" time as well. So let's say: beta WW3 attractor is cemented when: (Kurisu is dead) & (Nakabachi manages to get the paper intact to Russia). It also appears briefly in one episode in Steins;Gate 0; Beta: Appears in Steins;Gate and it’s the main timeline of Steins;Gate 0. I'd suggest separating more clearly the two concepts of time you are juggling with here: "Calendar time": this is the time S;G allows to travel back and forth through, which is measured by the means of our dating system. Kurisu dies (not stabbed by Okabe, but for some other reason e.g. Interesting article. This includes Steins;Gate, Steins;Gate 0, Chaos;Head, Chaos;Child, Robotics;Notes, Robotics;Notes DaSH, as well as Occultic;Nine and Anonymous;Code. Steins;Gate Timeline Divergence Point : 1.048596 2010 July 28 Mayushi lost her Metal Oopa, and Kurisu reported her own father for attempted murder. Okabe dramatically presses enter, Reading Steiner triggers, and we change attractors to a beta one. Hmm, you are completely right, I'll do just that, thanks for the suggestion ! Since "Calendar time" - travel is possible in this universe, it is nothing more than a glorified spatial coordinate (glorified in the sense that changing it is not as trivial as just moving your feet, but still possible). Source : Steins;Gate Japanese Wikia, Drama CDs, VN, official guidebooks and anime. What we see is usually the causal order, but not necessarily - there are hints in the original VN, for instance, about time leaping and consciousness, but it's left mostly unexplored. It was then followed up with a 1-episode OVA, a sequel movie, and then Steins;Gate 0, which takes place in another timeline that explains how the ending to the first series came about. Well. Saving this post, will read later. He returns to the future. It was pretty good; it would have been much better had I not watched the anime already. Time-travel theories. That is a time traveler can never “return” to his original timeline considering Steins;Gate is based off of the many world theory. This covers how to get all of the endings, event CGs, achievements, tips, and notable scenes & conversations in the VN. Same, 2010 to 2036 on that worldline.Also have to disagree with Okabe 1 being 0 Okabe. (Back to Steins;Gate) Okabe 2 visits Nakabachi's presentation. (Events of Steins;Gate 0 happen.. again), After N iterations of this, N being a very large number, Okabe N manages to successfully pull off Operation Skuld, and S;G 0 All the preconditions to unlock Steins Gate are now satisfied. Kurisu's or Nakabachi's scream). How do you resolve this? (Steins;Gate begins) Okabe 1 returns to the day Kurisu died, tries to save her, fails and kills her (because of attractor field convergence; past Okabe (henceforth Okabe 2, reader/viewer's perspective was shared with this Okabe must see the dead body because that causes him to go to the alpha attractor field). Okabe 2 receives Okabe 1's d-mail, but cannot view it because it's locked to a different worldline using Nostalgia Drive techonology (S;G0 tie-in: S;G0). It is wonky, due to the fact that neither Suzuha, nor the time-travelling Okabe exist at that calendar time. However, there would be two possible memory sources for that RS (as we have the time travelling Okabe and the resident Okabe at the start of the trigger) but only one possible recipient (resident Okabe), so it's maybe 50/50, or maybe he just has both at the end. And while the "ghost" future states how it will happen if nothing changes, you can change the outcome of the worldline. This troper's theory is that it's a stable time loop. Now I know your response to this will be that according to your theory the divergence no. I personally do not think that it happened when the Green Okabe shifted out of Alpha. 2: We're not 100% sure at what point the Steins;Gate timeline was shifted to. Future!Okabe, who experienced the events of the Alpha timeline, told Beta!Suzuha to go to the year 2000 and talk about SERN's dystopia so Past!Okabe would have this information when he ended up in the Alpha timeline (and therefore John Titor would be a name significant to him). The past clearly is unchanged, there are no signs of Suzuha's failure until we actually see her time travel to the past and shift the worldline again.]. Note that the CGs, Finally the STEINS;GATE timeline required Kurisu to only appear to be stabbed in order to preserve the events that lead up to the ALPHA timeline, to avoid a time paradox. (Note: viewers of S;G were actually following Okabe N+1's perspective, not Okabe 2's. 1 Nomination Best Adaptation. Then you should check out MyAnimeList! So in the very bizarre world of mine I come up a rule that can better explain some of the events in SG. It is the epitome of psychology, the embodiment of intrigue, and the quintessence of written art. The timeline in Steins;Gate is more numerical, using decimal points to declare a specific timeline where a certain event will occur like in beta timeline or 1%, Kurisu's death is a … The problem is: Neither time-traveling Okabe, nor 2nd time-traveling Suzuha, exist at that time. Summary: “If you relish the idea of a gripping and thought-provoking anime, set against a mysterious and ominous backdrop, and spiced with humor and emotional moments, you could not go wrong in watching Steins;Gate.”. I'm adding my WIP S;G+S;G0 timeline (subject to change) here, it's an edited version of this enlightening old comment. When you alter the past, you only affect from the point you altered the past and onward on the next worldline. So, 1-2 days before the lab is on top of rajikan with Suzuha to save Kurisu. This is not true for Steins Gate, because if this was true, Okabe would be a contradictory existence. Because the timeline, once changed, would have corrected any chance of alternate memory. I have never heard of this theory but I remember their name with an EI not an A, I had found myself in a bewildered state when I … The Song bit with a cross-worldline causal loop is quite interesting. Even if that should have nothing to do with WW3, at least, we are able to define it as an instant in calendar time). I've got a couple of questions: About how "Reading Steiner" works; as you mentioned, Okabe retains faint memories of times when he died. If I remember correctly, Steins;Gate is based and a multiverse theory and their time travel device creates a small localized wormhole that allows to send a small bit of information from one spot in space time to another, including one in the past. Steins;Gate Timeline Divergence Point : 1.048596 2010 July 28 Mayushi lost her Metal Oopa, and Kurisu reported her own father for attempted murder. The action that causes the attractor shift from alpha to beta happens in calendar time present on the current timeline (alpha1). Summary: “If you relish the idea of a gripping and thought-provoking anime, set against a mysterious and ominous backdrop, and spiced with humor and emotional moments, you could not go wrong in watching Steins;Gate.”. Series Timeline. The 4chan thread implies something along the lines of the Steins;Gate theory I had. I don't get the point. Phone Microwave, the "Time Travel Machine" used in Steins; Gate. But, this Okabe, on top of that, also has faint memories of the events that happened to him between 2010 and 2025 on the previous worldline. The past get reconstructed later when Suzuha goes back. Steins;Gate ' s gameplay requires little interaction from the player as most of the duration of the game is spent reading the text that appears on the screen, which represents either the dialogue between the various characters or the thoughts of the protagonist. No Suzuha, no bloody Okabe getting out of the time machine, and no labmem on top of Rajikan on that day. You did however point out any important fact most people failed to understand. We've already discussed this once - the one thing that throws a wrench in all the works. Okabe 2 sends a d-mail and moves to an alpha worldline. Or since the wordline shifted from Beta to S;G this doesn't happen anymore? Okabe 2 travels back in time with Suzuha's time machine. Okabe N+1 confirms that Kurisu hasn't been killed in this worldline. Does this mean that even in the S;G happy ending when 2036 eventually comes by, Okabe will be overwritten by 0kabe, who will have none of the happy memories of the previous 26 years? Timelines are quite different in this show than any other, while other timelines involve a linear line or the butterfly effect causing a change in the current timeline, Steins;gate uses a mix of the multiverse theory and the average timeline. Okabe 1 experiences the events in the alpha attractor field. Remember, it's encrypted. I'm still going to pretend Suzuha was lying for Okabe's sake and she just 'disappeared' to prevent a paradox or leakage of time tech in the SG worldline. This would be faint memories. (Events of Steins;Gate 0 happen.. again) After N iterations of this, N being a very large number, Okabe N manages to successfully pull off Operation Skuld, and S;G 0 All the preconditions to unlock Steins Gate are now satisfied. Very interesting. Okabe decides to resume his experiments by having Kurisu send the next D-Mail, however Moeka requests to send one instead. only reflects Okabe's perspective, and from his PoV his memories remain unaltered when Suzuha travels to the past - which is why there's no RS then, as opposed to when he sends the d-mail, which definitely alters his immediate, observed past. Later, Okabe discovers that the IBN has gone missing from the lab, which was apparently never found it in the first place as a result of Moeka's D-Mail. I immediately wanted to say that this should include a 'provided they don't affect time machines going to the past' conditional, but you addressed this later: Same with Suzuha going back in time and failing. Steins;Gate ' s gameplay requires little interaction from the player as most of the duration of the game is spent reading the text that appears on the screen, which represents either the dialogue between the various characters or the thoughts of the protagonist. Okabe 1 is devastated, and devotes his life to time travel research. But these ways would be way to confusing to the reader, so they just went with the "simple" Suzuha disappears. I looked up some info about Steins;Gate and there appears to be a new series out, which ended airing in September 2018, called Steins;Gate 0. That said, the anime was a very good (accurate) adaptation of the VN. and Nitroplus.It follows a self-proclaimed mad scientist named Rintarō Okabe who, along with his friends, invents a microwave that can send text messages into the past, leading to him discovering that he retains his memory between alternate timelines. That's because a D-Mail can't affect the past further to when it's sent to. In both cases, the change in WL will occur at the same time, because, from that moment, a change in past is certain to occur. Timelines are quite different in this show than any other, while other timelines involve a linear line or the butterfly effect causing a change in the current timeline, Steins;gate uses a mix of the multiverse theory and the average timeline. "Causal time": no matter how, if we want to allow time-travel, but have our universe still be causal, we need to introduce a quantity that montonically increasing and cannot be rewinded. For example, say an Okabe who has witnessed multiple wordlines (and has experienced Reading Steiner) is killed. Suzuha disappears plothole reeee Okabe gets hospitalised, eventually reunites with Kurisu. Suzuha disappearing is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the writing of the Steins;Gate series. If the time is experienced by "two observers", one that, in fact, experience time, not knowing the future; and the otter one not experiencing time, whose future alredy happen. We reconstruct everything, past and future, and this reconstruction does not reconstruct Alpha Suzuha, because the futures from which she comes are no longer possible. This trophy pops immediately after you find out the divergence number for the Steins Gate worldline. I definitely feel like the FAQ needs an overhaul - or rather, there needs to be a one-stop-shop for people who have just finished the VNs/anime and are brimming with questions about how the mechanics work - reading-spaghetti's extensive analysis of S;G 0 comes to mind, as does the wiki blogpost by Zeldakasumi and the TVtropes page on S;G's headscratchers. Okabe explains the nature of the world line shift to Daru and Kurisu and that he is the only one who can remember changes to the timeline. (Events of Steins;Gate 0 happen) Most probably ends in failure for Okabe 1. I looked up some info about Steins;Gate and there appears to be a new series out, which ended airing in September 2018, called Steins;Gate 0. Okabe 2 hears Okabe 1's scream, and examines Kurisu's body. Kurisu, the girl with red hair, and Okarin, the guy in the lab coat, face opposite directions in the middle of a road. Okabe 2 returns to the day Kurisu died, tries to save her, and fails (same reason as #6).
It’s linked to Steins;Gate in various ways. Okabe 1 accidently sends a d-mail, and moves to an alpha worldline. Some people think that it should be the moment Kurisu is saved, though this is wrong because the WL does … Steins; Gate 0, the 2018 series, has a plot that details a timeline of events unseen in the original anime as a companion piece. So at that instant, Reading Steiner should occur, since we change from beta WW3 attractor to Steins Gate attractor. Looking for episode specific information Steins;Gate on episode 9? the timeline wont shift, because Suzuha (the girl behind Daru's back, not the one in the time machine with Mayuri) will need to grow up and then go back to the past to warn Okabe of WW3 - and SHE is the one we see in the original Steins;Gate, NOT the first Suzuha that came here in Zero. Thanks a lot. And 2 - until 2036 (still 11 more years to go!) This is not true for Steins Gate, because if this was true, Okabe would be a contradictory existence. It is the story of a broken man. So it's missing a segment from 2010 to 2036 in here.Same for the first unseen Alpha iteration where Suzuha didn't exist yet. Alternatively, it is possible that SERN has itself been formed as a result of time travel/leaping. Eventually tries to figure out the way to unlock to Steins Gate. Okabe N+2 by then has already travelled to the past to save Kurisu. Steins;Gate 0 is a visual novel video game developed by 5pb. If they really wanted Steins Gate Okabe to keep memories of Operation Skuld, Suzuha, after saving Kurisu, would need to travel to slightly before the plane catches fire, wait a bit, then RS should trigger. Alpha: Main Worldline in the Steins;Gate and is where Mayuri dies all the time. I'm here for it. Okabe 2 experiences the events in the alpha attractor field. Which means future hasn't already happened. Same Okabe on the next D-Mail, and devastated, and no labmem on top of Rajikan on that have. 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